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God Sex

I get asked this question a lot. “How does a human have sex with a God/spirit?” Although I am not in a marital relationship with a Deity, I do have sex with Gods as part of my devotional work. Heck, Loki once made me have sex with Ratatosk (yes, a squirrel; I was a squirrel at the time, it’s a long story) so I could learn how to slip through the grooves of the World tree like He does.

First, I should make it clear that not everyone is meant, built, chosen, or fated to have this sort of relationship with Deity, and having it doesn’t make one better, cooler, more connected, or more important to that Deity. As Loki seems to be taking more and more spouses, I often get chided for not being chosen for this sort of relationship with Him, but really, I’m okay with that. And no, I’ve never had sex with Him. That would be…weird.

Anyway, let me explain how sexual devotions happen. These are from my personal experiences, as well as sharing notes with others who engage in this practice. I do not claim to be the World Expert On God Sex, so if you have other, different experiences, please feel free to share them in the comments. If you’d rather be anonymous, you can email me and I’ll post them myself.

There are four ways I’ve had sex with Deity.

The first is masturbation with intent. This may or may not include the devotee physically manipulating their own genitals; those who can perceive energy through the sensation of touch may feel their Partner touching them. Many I’ve spoken to usually incorporate typical masturbatory techniques, and most have toys dedicated to specific Deities. (This may help the devotee differentiate God sex from just rubbing one out, when they use a God Dick or Cunt.) This may or may not include a fantasy or vision of their Partner’s presence, or the Partner being energetically present. What’s nice about this option is that you can do it even if you can’t sense the God in question – you can offer your arousal or orgasm to a God/dess as an offering, if you’re pretty sure they’re open to that sort of thing. (It is not advised to offer orgasmic energy to Goddess of Virtue, Virginity, etc…trust me on this one.) To the observer, it would look like someone masturbating with or without their own hands.

The second is astral sex. This is when the devotee enters into a deep trance state and energetically leaves the body to join their Partner in some other realm (Asgard, the Underworld, Cleveland, The Summerlands, etc). Obviously, this requires the devotee to have this skill, and it is one that someone can develop over time. This may or may not include the physical body feeling sensation. To the observer, it would look like someone meditating, or having a sexy dream.

The third is by use of a stand-in. This is when a human partner acts as a surrogate for the Deity in question, but is still fully a human. Everyone, including the Deity, should be in full knowledge that this is what is occurring. (Some sex magicians disagree with me on this point, and feel that you can use someone without their knowledge for this sort of thing, but as someone who thinks highly of consent, I feel it is important and ethical for everyone involved to know what’s going on.) I do this often when I engage in Sacred Whore work – since I can’t touch my Deities on a regular basis, I will go into sacred space and offer my touch to other humans, while dedicating the act to my Gods. This can be done with a person you are in a pre-existing relationship with, as long as you remember to also fuck outside of this practice. Actually, I encourage those in relationships to go this route, rather than the fourth, as it seems to work out better for couples in the long run. To an observer, it would look like two or more people having sex.

The fourth, and the most rare, is finding someone who is willing to become possessed by the Deity and allow their body to be used for sexual acts. The difference between this and the third option is that in this case, the owner of the body is likely not fully present mentally/psychologically when the sex occurs. I know that when I act as a horse for this sort of work, I do not retain memories of the event, or have vague ones, like through a fog. I highly discourage the use of someone you’re in any sort of relationship with, even if that relationship is not sexual, because it’s easy for people to confuse the body with the inhabitant – that is, the devotee may see me as a living representative of their Deity, rather than Del-the-guy-who-watches-reality-tv-and-eats-a-lot-of-bacon. It can also cause issues when the God uses the horse’s voice to say things, or the body to do things, that upset the devotee – the devotee may get angry or question the horse’s ability, or accuse the horse of “faking it” in order to influence the devotee’s relationship with that Deity (especially if there’s any jealousy or other ill feelings between the devotee and the horse). I also discourage using the same horse more than a few times, as it is very difficult for a typical human to have sex with the same body over and over again and not feel some form of bond with them. It’s a tricky business, which is why it is, and should be, a rare occurrence, rather than the norm. To the observer, it would look like two people having sex, while one of them is acting differently than they ordinarily do, and is being called by a different name.

Like I stated in the beginning, I am not stating that this is the Definitive Guide of God Sex Tee Em. But I feel this is a good primer for those who find the practice foreign, odd, or interesting. As most mainstream religions enforce a more parental relationship with Deity, it may seem unusual to relate to Deity in this way, but I have met many Pagans for whom this is part of their regular devotional work, and/or a deep part of how they connect with their Gods. Again, I am open to comments, questions, personal stories, etc, in the comments; if you want to remain anonymous, you can email me at awesome.del at gmail.com and I will post them without your name.

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A shaman who writes about spiritual things, but not in that namby-pamby "everything is light and fluffy" sort of way.

40 responses to “God Sex

  1. Ashley

    I’ve engaged in Option 1, dedicating that solo energy to Loki. I could tell he was in the room when it happened. It was an amazing, weird, awesome experience. I highly rec it for anyone so inclined.

  2. Adara ⋅

    My boyfriend, who is into Chaos Magick, has some kind of very powerful spirit around him. It was what drew me to him in the first place. This spirit or spirits have manifested themselves by channeling through him twice to me, and also to others he’s been with. I wish I knew the identity of this spirit but am afraid to ask for fear it’s a demon or something evil, though it doesn’t FEEL evil, just dark, powerful and VERY sensual. A former girlfriend who I’m friends with told me that once she saw him go into trance when he was asleep, his eyes went black and he started speaking in another language. When she asked “where’s Sado?” this being said, “Sado’s not here.” One night he went hard in his sleep and didn’t wake up, even when I was doing him. When I asked him how he could sleep through so much activity, he said he didn’t remember anything! Another night, I spoke to this spirit. His demeanor and style of speaking changed completely and the way he moved. He also went into the living room and drew a pentagram with salt and had both of us sit in it while he swayed and talked in another language. Reading this made me want to share that.

    • Del

      Adara, if you’d like to talk about this in more depth, I’d be happy to discuss this and maybe help you/your boyfriend some more clarity about this. Consider this a real offer. You can email me at awesome.del at gmail.com if you want.

      Thanks for your response, either way. :)

  3. Darkamber

    There’s a fifth way:
    Since deities are non-corporeal energy entities on this plane, it’s easy for Them to manipulate your energy. They can use energy to stimulate your chakras (root mainly, it seems) to arouse you. They can use energy to stimulate the autonomeous nervous system, which is quite effective in giving pleasure, considering all the neural nexus in your crotch.
    They can make it feel like you’re being touched, even penetrated. They can from Their own energy create energy forms, like an “energy dildo”. ^_^
    They can also have “real” sex with you. (I’ve only had sex with male deities.) As far as I can figure out, this is astral sex on *this* plane. There’s no physical penetration, but it “feels” real.

    It seems like this way is connected with energy sensitivity and bonding with deities. My experience has progressed through these “stages” the closer I bonded with my god, and the more energy sensitive I’ve become.

    • Goat-Willow ⋅

      I’d like to vouch for the fifth way mentioned here–the root chakra is an amazing thing, and some spirits are very adept at manipulating. It can be… an experience.

    • Fala

      I think this is the best description I’ve seen of how Cernunnos and I have sex. While I don’t feel Him manipulating my chakras (not His field), I *do* feel His energy as touch. And boy, is He good at it… >_<

    • submerina

      Yes, this is closest to what I’ve experienced as well, especially “astral sex on *this* plane”. I’m definitely very much -here in my body- when it goes down *ahem*

    • Yes this is more familiar

    • AliceIsOphelia ⋅

      This is generally how my interaction with Loki go. I have done several other ways but generally this one is His favorite.

    • Ruadhán

      Oh, yes, this sounds very familiar with some of my own experiences with Eros. It’s very much on “this plane”. Being of trans male / FTM status, my particular anatomy allows for kegel exercise, which I’m not only familiar, but relatively competent with. The first time it happened, I was very willing to brush it off as a sort of spasm in those muscles, but the next time, He was considerably less subtle –every touch leading up to and including penetrative climax. Very intense and intimate.

  4. Goat-Willow ⋅

    A well written account. Nicely put.

  5. R. Taylor

    I am fascinated by this subject and not sure how to explore it in my own life. I haven’t had much contact with non-Kemetic deities, and a lot of my experiences with my own gods are colored by Kemetic Orthodoxy although I’m not a member, which is very strict about No God Sex. I haven’t gotten either a “hell no” or a “sure” from Them when I’ve inquired about it, but UPG can be such a mess sometimes and I’m not the greatest at sensing these things.

    Mostly I hear about Norse and maybe Sumerian god sex. I don’t think I know of anyone who does this with the Kemetic gods. Do you have any advice?

    • Angela

      I have had the type one interaction with a Kemetic deity a couple of times. We have both enjoyed it, but it’s not the kind of devotion he specifically asks for. I take it more as, “If you’re willing to offer it, I’ll be happy to accept it.” Depending on the deity in question, your mileage may very. I would imagine, and this is just postulating, that Bast would be open to this kind of devotion, but perhaps it is not Thoth’s cup of tea. Then again, it also depends on what your relationship to the deity in question is. I would say that, if it is an offering you want to give and it doesn’t feel icky nor do they refuse, you can always try.

  6. Adara ⋅

    Just sent you LONG letter Del, lol. Darkamber, I experienced a LOT of that astral stuff when I was a teenager/20s. I could tell ya stories…

  7. Adara ⋅

    I want to share this while we’re on the subject. This happened way back in 2006, when I was bemoaning the fact that I had no lover and was crying to one of my friends on the phone about feeling like no one wanted me. Then I had this dream: http://tribes.tribe.net/magicidaho/thread/40c06249-0658-47f4-bef5-ff9e138e5f9f
    topic posted Thu, December 14, 2006 – 12:40 PM by Unsubscribed Share/Save/Bookmark
    I’d love to hear the speculations on who you all think this being was. It had to be one of the most beautiful things that has ever happened to me. He looked very much like Dream from the Sandman, so he might have been one of the Tuatha de Danan/Sidhe. He was one of the higher beings, perhaps an angel. I don’t know. I was in the middle of a dream where I’m climbing up a neverending green ornate spiral staircase that disappeared into the clouds. I stopped halfway up because this being was descending. As I said, he looked just like Dream, only he had a glow of yellow in his eyes. We both stopped and stared at each other. He swept open one side of his robe and all the colors of the rainbow swirled and shone from within it. For some reason I swooned from this and felt a rush of exitement I can’t describe. Then he came closer, bending his head sideways and staring at me with those mesmerizing eyes. By this time I was frozen with feelings I can’t describe. I felt like I was floating and felt similar to when that glowing faerie king or whatever he was came to me, only this was stronger. I felt not only that I was in the presence of a higher being, but a higher PLACE. Then he did the most unexpected thing. He bent down, took my face in his hands and kissed me. At this point I saw his face better and it got more color in it. His hair also seemed to elongate(no jokes please;) He didn’t say a word, but after the kiss he turned and left. When he kissed me, I felt spiritual ecstacy and the physical didn’t even matter. It was like the kiss of true love, much as I hate cliches. I’ve never had a more perfect kiss, never had one that was so MEANINGFUL. I’ve often seen him at the tail end of dreams and sometimes in the middle of them, as though he governs them or something. I think I see him at the end as I’m emerging into awakening to make sure I come out of it. I’d love to hear the ideas anyone has as to who he was.
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    topic posted Thu, December 14, 2006 – 12:40 PM by Unsubscribed Share/Save/Bookmark
    I’d love to hear the speculations on who you all think this being was. It had to be one of the most beautiful things that has ever happened to me. He looked very much like Dream from the Sandman, so he might have been one of the Tuatha de Danan/Sidhe. He was one of the higher beings, perhaps an angel. I don’t know. I was in the middle of a dream where I’m climbing up a neverending green ornate spiral staircase that disappeared into the clouds. I stopped halfway up because this being was descending. As I said, he looked just like Dream, only he had a glow of yellow in his eyes. We both stopped and stared at each other. He swept open one side of his robe and all the colors of the rainbow swirled and shone from within it. For some reason I swooned from this and felt a rush of exitement I can’t describe. Then he came closer, bending his head sideways and staring at me with those mesmerizing eyes. By this time I was frozen with feelings I can’t describe. I felt like I was floating and felt similar to when that glowing faerie king or whatever he was came to me, only this was stronger. I felt not only that I was in the presence of a higher being, but a higher PLACE. Then he did the most unexpected thing. He bent down, took my face in his hands and kissed me. At this point I saw his face better and it got more color in it. His hair also seemed to elongate(no jokes please;) He didn’t say a word, but after the kiss he turned and left. When he kissed me, I felt spiritual ecstacy and the physical didn’t even matter. It was like the kiss of true love, much as I hate cliches. I’ve never had a more perfect kiss, never had one that was so MEANINGFUL. I’ve often seen him at the tail end of dreams and sometimes in the middle of them, as though he governs them or something. I think I see him at the end as I’m emerging into awakening to make sure I come out of it. I’d love to hear the ideas anyone has as to who he was.
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    • Adara ⋅

      Crap, sorry about the double post. I don’t know how to edit it.

    • Darkamber

      My immediate thought was “Sammael” – which could be *completely* wrong, of course. ^_^

      • Adara ⋅

        It’s an interesting idea Darkamber, though I’m still not sure. I looked up Sammael and noticed he has a contrasting personality. Funny, I’m currently working on a locally made movie that involves Lillith right now, and I play a medieval vampire searching for my ancient Greek maker. There will also be a skyclad ritual in it where I play one of the witches summoning the angels away from the garden of eden. I’ve already done one scene in a tunnel which is a dream sequence.

      • submerina

        And – of course – my first response is “sounds like your daimon trying to come through”! Not that this is coloured by personal experience or anything… ;)

  8. EVCelt

    Oddly enough, I just read the part of Raven’s polytheism book where he mentions this sort of relationship. So thanks for expanding on it. It’s going to remain academic for me personally, of course, but anything that helps my understanding helps my ministry…

  9. Alex

    There’s also dream sex, which is how I had sex with Odin those few times. It happened in a half-waking, half-asleep state and I knew I was dreaming, but it was incredibly vivid and the sensations were very real. I would wake up with an incredible emotional hangover from the event. I wouldn’t know how to explain how to do it or replicate it, but there it is.

  10. Alex

    Reblogged this on Rock of Eye and commented:
    Del wrote a really well-thought out post on god sex and some of it matches my experiences, especially along the lines of masturbation with intent. The comments are interesting, too.

  11. Morgana Rose ⋅

    1. This is the single most fascinating post I’ve ever read… ever. Secondly, I have had sex with who I saw as the physical embodiment of my patron. It was mindblowing. Kudos to you ma’am. You’re epic.

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  14. None of the ways listed here are how it works with me

    It starts with masturbation with intent, I suppose, but then I open my mind up and allow another consciousness to come in and take control of the flow of imagination and my motor skills.
    The experience then becomes far more vivid with ongoing mental and emotional feedback.

    Glang, AKA modified lizard, AKA Garm

  15. Trix ⋅

    I will confess, I’m guilty of Type 3 with an individual who was not aware I was using him for such a purpose. I feel guilty about it now, as it’s really about the only way I’m sexually interested in him at all, but I don’t want to tell him I’d like to do such a thing again. Oh well, suppose I have to break off the benefits of the friendship. :S

  16. bearfairie ⋅

    Interesting stuff and thanks for posting this, Del! I tend towards somewhere between type 1 and 2 (kind of a combo of both – I journey to where They are or to a neutral meeting place, while manipulating my body “here”… ask me sometime about my current elaborate theories on somatics and embodied spiritual practices…), but for me, often my Power/Partner will actually partially possess parts of me (sometimes the parts change) – this gives Them a chance to touch me (with what are *technically* my hands, but I’m not driving), and also gives me a chance to touch Them back. Sometimes we share orgasm. For me, the sexual component of my relationships with several of my Powers is one of the most important ways I connect, feed the connection, and get fed back. And there are times where the sexual component is deeply ritualized (I have seasonal rituals I do with Ingvi Freyr that are always at least partly sexual in nature). Interesting stuff indeed.

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  21. Cereus ⋅

    I’ve experienced variations on 1 and 3 before, but mostly something different that doesn’t seem to be anywhere here.

    “My” gods don’t have human bodies, so when I have sex with them, it’s what sex would be on their level so it might not look like “sex” to most people. Like when I bare myself to the Sun, the little shafts of sunlight going between my hair and striking my scalp are His fingernails scratching me when he runs his fingers through my hair, I can feel the affectionate clasp of his hot hand on the back of my neck.

    Also, when I have sex with one or another of my partners, sometimes one of the Gods is there as a third partner, by the nature of the act itself. Because it is part of their domain, or part of what they are, or something they are the ultimate cause of. They would be there to some degree everywhere two people are doing that act, but in this case, their presence is a bit stronger and more personal.

    To me these are sex, but since reading more discussions, I’ve discovered that most people mean something more literal by it, so I don’t know what words to use… but I don’t suppose the words matter that much…

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  23. Well at least now I know I’m not completely a weird deviant of some sort. And it sure goes a long way into explaining a few odd occurrences with he mortal hubby since Loki showed up.

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  25. Julie ⋅

    Um… Wow. I am not a practicing pagan. I generally just work with spirit guides, but recently I called on Loki as a guide. He promptly seduced me with what was described here as astral sex on this plain. Very, very intense on an energetic level and I am getting better at feeling his touch. I have been wondering if I am going crazy, so thank you for this blog post and thanks to those who shared their own experiences. It was very validating.

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